SC100-100 Sling Media, What a disappointment!

Overall Rating3.333.333.333.333.33

What a disappointment!

I have been waiting for this product for 22 months, having seen the announcement and demo at the Las Vegas Consumer Electronic Show in January 2007. I have long been a fan of Sling Media and have used its products for close to three years. I have also recommended them to many friends and colleagues. I am a technologist and a “gadget freak” and seldom return products. Even less frequently I write reviews.

I received the SlingCatcher yesterday, after pre-ordering it on Amazon, and I could not have imagined, 24 hours ago, that I would now be packing it to return it. In a word, this product is a disaster. It is expensive for the features it offers (I paid $299 at Amazon, and I note that the product is already discounted two days later) and it is poorly implemented.

The installation was the only positive part of the experience. It was very simple to install (even simpler than a Slingbox) and recognized the network immediately. I have a wired, 1 Gigabit network available at the right location. The SlingCatcher does not have WiFi. The only peculiarity is that it took several minutes to download a software upgrade. Given that I have one of the first units to come off the boat, I wonder how many bugs were discovered during the trip from China to the USA. I should say that I did not experience any of the installation problems mentioned by other users.

The SlingCatcher lets you do three things (according to what’s written on the box): watch video from the Internet; watch video from a Slingbox; and watch video from a PC. But be careful about making assumptions about what these descriptions mean!

Watch video from the Internet — while you might think that this feature would allow you to browse the web and stream videos from it, it is not quite so. You have to have a computer on your network running a software program called “SlingProjector,” which allows you to “project” whatever you can play on your computer onto the SlingCatcher (and your TV.)

I downloaded the SlingProjector software to my laptop (which I operate wirelessly) and to my home computer which sits on my 1Gig network (iMac running Windows because there is no SlingProjector software for the Mac OS yet!) I was able to go to the web from my laptop and stream software which in turn was streamed from my computer to the SlingCatcher and my TV. In order to stream a Hulu or Youtube video, the software lets you capture the portion of the screen where the video is being shown via a “cropping” feature. This works reasonably well, but the resulting quality is not that great. Part of it is a function of the quality of the incoming video, but I think that the fundamental problem is that as you stream the signal twice, you lose quality. In addition to that, you are showing the video on a large screen TV, and that is bound not to look as good as on the computer. So, expectations are high and quality is lower than it could be. Not a good outcome.

I then streamed videos from my home computer on the 1G network, with similar results. Note that in order to do that, you better have the SlingCatcher, your computer and your tv in the same room, otherwise you have to go back and forth all the time. I was watching a video and all of a sudden a computer message popped up right in the middle of the screen, which required going back to the home computer to click on the message.

But the worst part of the SlingProjector was that it did not work in some instances. I wanted to show a PowerPoint presentation on the tv screen, and in order to do that I did not use the “cropping” feature, but I put the SlingProjector in full screen mode. After opening the PowerPoint file, it was not possible to get the thing going from my laptop to the SlingCatcher. I managed to see a screen, but then the whole thing would freeze and I could not make it work even after restarting and resetting the box. After a while I gave up.

The second feature is the ability to connect to a SlingBox and watch on a TV what you would until now watch on your computer. That feature seems to work, though I found the menu system quite cumbersome. The quality also did not seem that great. I would have thought that having two hardware boxes talking to each other would allow Sling to optimize protocols and provide high quality and speed. Not so. Perhaps you can get better results with the HD box, which I do not have (it would have been the next purchase probably.)

Finally I thought I would get good results with the third, “slam dunk” feature, “Watch Video from your PC.” Note that even this description is misleading. Watching video from your PC means implementing the Sling version of “Sneakernet” — copy your files on a USB stick from your computer and walk it over and plug the stick into the SlingCatcher. But much to my surprise, this did not work at all. I tried both a USB stick with a few files, and then attaching a 500GB USB external hard disk full of media files. In the first case it found nothing, in the second case it told me that the files were unreadable. So much for the slam dunk feature.

So, I am disappointed at two levels. First, because the product is buggy and does not work as advertised. I knew what I was buying, because I have been reading about this for almost two years and despite the misleading descriptions, I knew enough not to be surprised. Even so, however, the product just does not work!

At another level, I am very disappointed in Sling. This was a huge opportunity to corner the market as the “media center” device of choice. For $300, why didn’t the company include a web browser, so that I could go on the web directly and stream video from there as opposed to having to do it twice, with the additional inconvenience of having to use a computer in the middle? Was that not possible, given that the product is 2 years late and they charge $300? How much more would that cost? Some additional memory maybe?

Second, what’s the deal with Sneakernet? Have we gone back 20 years? If you can read from a USB device (which you can’t even make work) can’t you allow me to read from devices on my network? I have several computers on the network as well as a NAS. My Playstation allows me to browse all these devices, retrieve and stream videos in HD, retrieve pictures and music and play it at high quality and flawlessly on my TV. If you can do it from a USB device, why can’t you do it off the network? Even if it requires people to upgrade to a 1Gigabit network for HD video, it is still better than not having the feature at all.

In conclusion, I am very disappointed. The SingCatcher is under-featured and overpriced. Most importantly, it is a buggy product, which is incredible for something that’s been in the works for over two years.

Update (5/19/2012): This item is currently on sale here for the lowest price I’ve seen. I also found some auctions for this item here.

The featured review for this product, Sling Media SlingCatcher SC100-100 Universal Media Player for TV Electronics, was written by Veleno.

The average rating for this item is 3.3 out of 5 stars, according to 3 reviews.

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Reviews (3)

S. Mosness

March 3rd, 2010 at 6:20 am    


Overall Rating55555

Absolutely Amazing Peice of Technology If You Use It Right
This is an amazing piece of technology if you use it for the things it is meant to do. Those “things” are as follows: (1) Sling (place shift) your TV from one location to another; (2) Watch video from an external source (external hard drive or thumb drive etc); and (3) view your computer screen on your TV connected to your SlingCatcher.

If you have been using your slingBox for what it is meant to do— sling your TV this device will revolutionize how you watch you slingbox. I live outside the United States and have used my SlingBox everywhere I have lived (Africa, Europe, and Asia). Before buying the SlingCatcher i had to either (1) watch my home TV on my computer or (2) go through the hassel of connecting my computer to the VGA port on my TV and attach an audio cable to the TV. This was cumbersome and time consuming.

Now with the SlingCatcher all i have to do is leave the SlingCatcher Connected to my TV (now in Asia) and watch my live TV in the US any time right on my main TV. Absolutely amazing because how many people want to sit at their computer to watch a basketball game etc? With my 2MB upload connection at my house in the States and a similar connection in Asia the picture is good enough to watch any fast moving sporting event EVEN ON A 50″ PLASMA! Even when my connection in Asia goes down to 500kbs the TV is still watchable!

The second great thing about the SlingCatcher is watching Videos you have on a hard drive directly on the SlingCatcher w/o a computer! This is awesome for those of you who download a lot of videos from the internet and want to watch them on your TV (again no more connecting your computer to the TV now you just plug in the USB cable into the back of the SlingCatcher). NOTE: it plays every video file I have thrown at it: AVI, XVID, MPEG etc I have never had a video file not play on the SlingCatcher.

Lastly you can “Project” your computer screen to the SlingCatcher. I agree with the other reviewers in some respects that quality and hassles here are far worse than the other features of the SlingCatcher. However most people that are using a SlingCatcher are pretty technologically savy and therefore should know how to “save” all internet video to a file and then watch it using a hard drive directly connected to the SlingCatcher. Therefore you can use the Projector only for PowerPoint Presentations etc which work flawlessly on the SlingCatcher.

NOTE: one other benefit is that if you have parents living abroad who want to use SlingBox but hate the computer, this is a perfect thing for them. Once you have it set up they just have to learn how to use a new remote which is pretty simple with the simple SlingCatcher Remote. My parents now have since they also live abroad and also absolutely love it!

ALSO NOTE: a lot of the bad reviews that were written here were written before many of the firmware updates that are available now had been made available. SlingCatcher makes updating easy: as soon as you connect it to the internet it lets you know that there are updates available and then installs them for you. Do this and I can guarantee that if you use it for one or all of the above uses you will absolutely love this device!

BUY IT IF YOU NEED IT!!


Veleno

March 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm    


Overall Rating11111

What a disappointment!
Rated 1 stars.


wrong side of the chasm

April 6th, 2010 at 4:28 am    


Overall Rating44444

works great for slingbox-to-catcher…
feels like i waited 2+ years for the slingcatcher. happy to have it in hand. no regrets. has worked flawlessly thus far for my application.

i pre-ordered @ amazon, and have now set it up in california to catch signal from a slingbox pro in asia and another slingbox pro within california.

BUMMER:
-> as other reviewers have noted, no mac os support (yet?) for using your computer as a signal source.

PLEASANT SURPRISES:
-> picture quality is good. other reviewers complaining about picture quality may not have adjusted the “resolution” settings within the menus, i.e. you have the option of specifying the “hoped-for” resolution from your slingbox. my slingcatcher by default set this resolution to a lower quality setting. for now (after i switched the resolution to the higher setting) i feel that the picture quality is essentially on par with the average picture quality i have achieved using the pc and mac os software clients.
-> the learning remote: comes with a basic learning remote (for TV on/off, input select etc.). nice touch.

SUGGESTIONS:
-> wish it were cheaper: $199 or less would be ideal. or add some local, on-board DVR (tivo-like) functionality (fine if you require we add an external HD) and i will gladly pay the $289.

overall, two thumbs earnestly up.

five stars if pricing is revisited (as above) and for incremental UI improvements (current UI is good, not great. granted, it’s a difficult challenge. steal what you can from mac os). others: show your support to ensure good tech like this keeps coming.

*** 090329 UPDATE **
as of march 29th, 2009 the price has dropped to $160ish.

haven’t seen any software updates that have drastically improved the product. however, i still use it daily: 2 units at my place for local and remote streaming and 1 unit at my in-laws. i would never say this is a perfect product, but it certainly is a good value for $160ish.

would love to see:
+ update that provides higher picture quality and punchier control response times (e.g. a local HD slingbox over gigabit switches and cat6 cabling should yield better results than currently observed)
+ how about the option to purchase a universal remote? the included remote suffices, but is weak. imagine a $100ish remote with backlit, touchscreen lcd that rendered the various remotes you need. or how about this 80/20: an iphone universal remote app.?


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